Comments on: The meaninglessness of Yaya Toure, defensive frailties + potential facelift! http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/ Following the Third Generation of Wenger's Arsenal Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:35:49 +1000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Samuel http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3678 Samuel Wed, 11 Nov 2009 22:44:42 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3678 Xabier, good point mate. Denilson isn't world class yet, but with a decent run in the side he should mature. All that matters are the results, and hopefully we'll get some silverware this year Xabier, good point mate. Denilson isn’t world class yet, but with a decent run in the side he should mature. All that matters are the results, and hopefully we’ll get some silverware this year

]]> By: Xabier http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3672 Xabier Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:21:57 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3672 Vieira wont come back. If he did and we won something all the focus would be taken away from the youngsters who did all the actual work and the media would go crazy saying it was Vieira that won us another trophy. Thus we wont be seeing our Midfield Legend ever again. Vieira wont come back. If he did and we won something all the focus would be taken away from the youngsters who did all the actual work and the media would go crazy saying it was Vieira that won us another trophy. Thus we wont be seeing our Midfield Legend ever again.

]]> By: boomer http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3671 boomer Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:12:58 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3671 bit of info, in the leage of teams who have conceaded from set piece we are not even in the top ten, urban mythe, busted bit of info, in the leage of teams who have conceaded from set piece we are not even in the top ten, urban mythe, busted

]]> By: boomer http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3670 boomer Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:11:21 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3670 I think too much is being made of conceading goals when we already scored 3,4,or 5 or 6. We have a great back 4 imo, if someone goes sick then it could be problem but at this stage of things i really cant see any probs. Continued hard work and standard of play will see the past 3 seasons hard work pay off I think too much is being made of conceading goals when we already scored 3,4,or 5 or 6. We have a great back 4 imo, if someone goes sick then it could be problem but at this stage of things i really cant see any probs. Continued hard work and standard of play will see the past 3 seasons hard work pay off

]]> By: RedandDread http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3669 RedandDread Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:09:55 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3669 WE had to chase the game at Man Citeh and look what happened. We are still likley to let in goals from set pieces and that is a concern. whilst not letting in many from open play, opponents have targeted set pieces as an opportunity to get goal chances. Hopefully we can iron this out and become more stingy. We will need to! WE had to chase the game at Man Citeh and look what happened. We are still likley to let in goals from set pieces and that is a concern. whilst not letting in many from open play, opponents have targeted set pieces as an opportunity to get goal chances. Hopefully we can iron this out and become more stingy. We will need to!

]]> By: Ole Gunner http://www.third-gen.com/arsenal/the-meaninglessness-of-yaya-toure-defensive-frailties-potential-facelift/#comment-3668 Ole Gunner Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:54:48 +0000 http://www.third-gen.com/?p=2134#comment-3668 Honestly, I'm not too bothered. If you look at the number of chances we concede, they aren't so many. Now I know this fact can be interpreted the other way as well. If you're conceding goals due to silly concentration issues, it can be a nightmare. It's hard to coach concentration. Also, if you really look at it, it's 2-3 players making the mistakes that lead to goals. But I'm not bothered because when you really look at it, we've improved defensively in terms of correcting past defensive mistakes. When we adopted this 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 or whatever it is, I knew, and said there was the risk of conceding more goals due to the fact that our defenders will have more 1-on-1 defending to do. Can we be tighter? Can this team concede fewer goals? Can they play a tight game? I say yes. That's why we haven't had to chase any game. We concede after we go ahead, generally. Honestly, I’m not too bothered. If you look at the number of chances we concede, they aren’t so many.

Now I know this fact can be interpreted the other way as well. If you’re conceding goals due to silly concentration issues, it can be a nightmare. It’s hard to coach concentration.

Also, if you really look at it, it’s 2-3 players making the mistakes that lead to goals.

But I’m not bothered because when you really look at it, we’ve improved defensively in terms of correcting past defensive mistakes.

When we adopted this 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or 4-1-4-1 or whatever it is, I knew, and said there was the risk of conceding more goals due to the fact that our defenders will have more 1-on-1 defending to do.

Can we be tighter? Can this team concede fewer goals? Can they play a tight game?

I say yes. That’s why we haven’t had to chase any game. We concede after we go ahead, generally.

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